“When that came out, I had TMZ calling me, even people from England and from France, because they wanted some kind of statement about the theme,” Tapia de Veer said. “People are furious about the change of the theme, and I thought that was interesting. I texted the producer and I told him that it would be great to, at some point, give them the longer version with the ooh-loo-loo-loos, because people will explode if they realize that it was going there anyway. He thought it was a good idea. But then Mike cut that—he wasn’t happy about that.”

The composer added, “I mean, at that point, we already had our last fight forever, I think. So he was just saying no to anything.”

On The Howard Stern Show April 8, White called it a “b–ch” move” for Tapia de Veer to air his grievances like that.

“I honestly don’t know what happened,” White said, “except now I’m reading his interviews because he decides to do some PR campaign about him leaving the show. I just don’t think he respected me.”

They “never really even fought,” the producer continued. “He says we feuded…It was basically me giving him notes.”

Their collaboration “did work” during the first two seasons, White said, because they shared ideas. By season three, Tapia de Veer “didn’t want to go through the process with me, he didn’t want to get notes from me, he didn’t want to go to sessions.”

And, White added, “He’s definitely making a big deal out of just a creative difference.”